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It's been a while since I have posted here.
I used to contribute to a couple other forums and have been betting NASCAR for a half dozen years online now. I thought I would rejoin by offering up my NASCAR betting philosophy.

At the beginning of a NASCAR season, sportsbooks are generally well behind good handicappers. However, since there is a significant juice attached to each wagering opportunity there may still be limited opportunity for profit.

As a fan, it is easy for me to focus lots of attention on drivers, teams, rule changes, silly season swaps, rumors, deals and the myriad of other aspects of this sport that make it entertaining. All of the information absorbed over the off season is very valuable. Being able to weigh that information as far as wagering is concerned, is the crucial requirement of a good handicapper in the beginning of the season. This is evident in that there are often many betting opportunities in the first 7-8 races of the season.

However, as the season progresses the quantity and quality of these opportunities tends to tail off as the lines the books deal get sharper and sharper. The reason is: the more esoteric information gathered over the offseason becomes more and more stale and the statistical information gathered from each race becomes far more determining of a factor of future results.

Statistical information is far easier to correlate with massive databases, computers, etc., thus sportsbooks have a slight edge as the information rolls in with each practice, qualifying and race. This narrows the advantage that the capper enjoys over the sportsbook and you will begin to see fewer and fewer lines that offer value as the season progresses.

This reliance on number crunching is what gets most sportsbook lines sharper and sharper but it also allows for wayward lines when other "outside" non-statistical factors influence the outcome of an event.
 

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It's been a while since I have posted here.
I used to contribute to a couple other forums and have been betting NASCAR for a half dozen years online now. I thought I would rejoin by offering up my NASCAR betting philosophy.

At the beginning of a NASCAR season, sportsbooks are generally well behind good handicappers. However, since there is a significant juice attached to each wagering opportunity there may still be limited opportunity for profit.

As a fan, it is easy for me to focus lots of attention on drivers, teams, rule changes, silly season swaps, rumors, deals and the myriad of other aspects of this sport that make it entertaining. All of the information absorbed over the off season is very valuable. Being able to weigh that information as far as wagering is concerned, is the crucial requirement of a good handicapper in the beginning of the season. This is evident in that there are often many betting opportunities in the first 7-8 races of the season.

However, as the season progresses the quantity and quality of these opportunities tends to tail off as the lines the books deal get sharper and sharper. The reason is: the more esoteric information gathered over the offseason becomes more and more stale and the statistical information gathered from each race becomes far more determining of a factor of future results.

Statistical information is far easier to correlate with massive databases, computers, etc., thus sportsbooks have a slight edge as the information rolls in with each practice, qualifying and race. This narrows the advantage that the capper enjoys over the sportsbook and you will begin to see fewer and fewer lines that offer value as the season progresses.

This reliance on number crunching is what gets most sportsbook lines sharper and sharper but it also allows for wayward lines when other "outside" non-statistical factors influence the outcome of an event.


Agreed. That is why it is very important to get as much information on drivers/cars early in the week.

Knowing what car is being brought to the track helps quite a bit....(used to be great great info in the old car, not as much with the COT seeing as how chassis setups dont vary too much)

The thing that I have going for me is my extensive note keeping on every race. I have found that vegas bases their odds on previous finishes at the track in years past....but as we all know, the best car doesnt always win each week. I write down the best cars of the day, regardless of finishing position, and store it in my memory bank. A lot of times, you will have the best cars go a lap down for speeding down pit road, long pit stop etc....they will be 20th towards the end and fly up to finish 5th. Believe you me, I will take that car early the next time they come around to that track

Vegas has been getting smarter over the years (they were plain stupid until about 4 years ago), but I always try to stay one step ahead.

If vegas really want to make some money, they need to hire me to make their odds.....bettors would hate me! but until that point, I will exploit vegas oddsmakers until they come looking for me
 

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Nice info guys. What Nascar related websites do you visit on a regular basis?

Also, can either one of you guys post up the 8 COT races last year? Had it written down but think I tossed it.

TIA,
LB
 

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Nice info guys. What Nascar related websites do you visit on a regular basis?

Also, can either one of you guys post up the 8 COT races last year? Had it written down but think I tossed it.

TIA,
LB

I am a big believer in note taking on each race. Vegas odds seem to be heavily reliant on previous finishes by a driver on a given track....many times the best car didn't always win. I keep history of everything, so the next time they return, I know ahead of time which drivers SHOULD be the favorites

I don't rely on any particular website, other than Nascar.com for practice speeds (average).

All the COT races last year were at the shorter tracks and road courses...off the top of my head they were Richmond, Phoenix, Bristol, Martinsville, Dover, Darlington, New Hampshire, Sanoma & Watkins Glen. Also raced the last Talladega race of the year. Ran a total of 16 races, with some of the tracks having hosted 2 races.

Hope this helps!
 

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jayski.com

is one of my favorite nascar handicapping sites. tons of good info there.
 

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Thanks guys.

Racingone.com also offers up a lot of stats but they're keeping the old car stats merged in with the new. Thought I might try to break the COT stuff out.

Obviously, Hamlin will be a guy to watch next time to Richmond, huh?

Thx again,
LB
 

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Thanks guys.

Racingone.com also offers up a lot of stats but they're keeping the old car stats merged in with the new. Thought I might try to break the COT stuff out.

Obviously, Hamlin will be a guy to watch next time to Richmond, huh?

Thx again,
LB


I may put 10-15 units on Hamlin in September race in Richmond....his car was untouchable!!!
 

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Simulator Nascar

I use a site for Nascar,They use a simulator program.
It runs the race 1000 times,comes up with great results.
It costs me $119.00 per mth,Plus I get all sports thrown in.
It shows me the best matchups,Drivers,matchups to avoid.
But with crashes,You have to handicap these race's.
You need drivers that can keep themselves out of harms way.
 

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